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Episode No. 344: Jamie Campbell

Jamie Campbell is a standup comedian who will be performing at Butte’s Covellite Theatre on Thursday, May 14.
Advanced tickets are recommended for this show because it just might sell out. (Click here to buy tickets.)
Jamie will bring his high-energy, storytelling and positive vibe to the Mining City all the way from Kansas City, where he is still getting used to that Midwest nice.
Known for finding humor even in life’s toughest moments, Jamie delivers sharp, relatable comedy that connects with audiences across the country.
You may recognize Jamie from his Drybar Comedy special Middle Man, as well as appearances on Chicago Fire, Hollywood Darlings, and the Emmy-nominated ABC series Boondoggle. His style blends heartfelt perspective with big laughs, shaped by a life story that proves comedy can shine light in even the darkest places.
Thursday’s show will be hosted by Brittani Ferris, owner of Uptown Comedy. Kane O’Neil will also be the opener, and Jamie will take part in a meet and greet at the 51 Below Speakeasy after the show, which is rated PG-13 and family friendly.
Earlier today, I met with Jamie over Zoom for a fun conversation.
Listen in to hear how he became a comedian in the first place. Listen as he talks about working with people like Damon Waynes, Jeff Garlin and Dana Carvey.
Listen as he talks about his comedy influences and how he wants audience members leaving his shows feeling good about themselves. Listen in to see that next Thursday will be a show that you do not want to miss.
Today’s episode is presented by Casagranda’s Steakhouse. Eat where the local’s eat. It is also available on YouTube:
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Holy buckets, we need to learn the rules

Boston Red Sox left fielder Manny Ramirez settled under the lazy pop fly in Fenway Park.
Manny being Manny, though, he did not catch it cleanly. The ball hit off his glove and bounced into the air. Then, after it looked like he was going to really mess up, Manny somehow snagged the ball before it hit the ground.
The batter was out, and Manny threw the ball to third base, where an opposing runner had been tagging up, for what I thought was an obvious double play.
The reason I thought that was because the runner left as soon as the ball hit Manny’s glove. By the time Manny actually caught the ball, the runner was several feet off the bag on his way home.
I jumped out of my chair, screaming at the television as the umpire signaled that the runner was safe. The run scored on a sacrifice fly.
But he left before Manny caught the ball, so I knew without a doubt that it should have been a double play. The runner cannot advance until the ball is caught. Right?
Well, wrong.
Just as I was about to completely lose it, Jerry Remy, the color man for the New England Sports Network, stepped in to settle me, and the rest of “Red Sox Nation,” down. He explained the “first touch” rule in baseball.
When a runner is tagging up on a fly ball, he can legally run once the outfielder first touches the ball. He does not have to wait until the catch is secured to leave on a tag play.
As my cousin Skinny put it, the rule was a rule back when the Yankees were called the “Hilltoppers” and the Dodgers were called the “Robins.”
If you think about the rule, it makes perfect sense. A skilled outfielder could just juggle the ball as he runs into the infield, preventing a runner from tagging up.
So, even after the pivotal run scored against my team, I accepted the obvious situation after it was pointed out by the best colorman in the history of sports.
For a minute, though, I was irate because I did not know that rule — even though I had already watched an obscene amount of baseball by that time.
So, it is understandable that Butte Central fans were a little mad when something kind of similar happed in the top of the fourth inning of BC’s game against Dillon April 15 at 3 Legends Stadium.
Unlike me, however, they were not in the comfort of their own home, and the umpires could hear them.
With one out and runners on second and third, Dillon first baseman Trenton Moreni hit a high fly ball to left-center field. Sawyer Tackett tagged up on third base, and Cohen Hartman tagged at second.
The ball bounced out of the mitt of BC leftfielder Tony Stajcar. However, Tony’s cousin, Trapper Stajcar, somehow snagged the ball out of the air for the out.
Tackett and Hartman ran as soon as the ball hit Tony Stajcar’s mitt. So, when Trapper Stajcar threw the ball in for what appeared to be another out, BC fans figured it was a obvious inning-inning double play.
So, too, did the field umpire, and BC fans cheered the great play by Trapper Stajcar as the Central players ran into the dugout to bat in the bottom of the fourth.
It did not, however, fool home plate umpire Bryce Carver, who is so often the punching bag of baseball fans, even though he works extremely hard to try to master his craft.
Carver got together with the field umpire, and they correctly ruled that the two runs scored, and the top of the inning would continue with two outs.
Like I did when Ramirez bobbled the ball that day a couple of decades ago, some BC fans nearly lost their minds.
Fortunately — or, depending on your perspective, unfortunately — the video on GameChanger captured the puzzlement and anger of the fans.
“It’s an out,” one fan yelled.
“The ball didn’t touch the ground,” another said. Then more comments rolled in.
“Are you sh–ing me?”
“So why isn’t the guy on second out? He didn’t tag at second.”
“Terrible. Oh, my goodness.”
“He caught it. In the air.”
“And both the runs count?”
And my favorite:
“Holy buckets.”
Unfortunately for the home fans, they did not have Jerry Remy there to describe the rule to them. So, you have to excuse the BC fans, to an extent, for their outrage. They genuinely thought the Central players were getting jobbed by the umpire, even if the BC coach did not argue after he got the explanation.
I can sympathize with those fans. I feel that way all the time when I’m watching my son play baseball, and I have yelled at some umpires who are friends of mine. I have yelled at football officials and baseball umpires who I have refereed basketball games with.
Every time, I feel like an idiot afterword, as I should.
The thing is, though, when you are yelling in public about a call, it is a good idea to know the rule. From my experience watching years of Little League, American Legion and high school baseball, most people do not learn the rules before the yell at the umpires.
You probably shouldn’t yell at officials in youth sports in general, but you really should keep quiet if you do not know why the call was made. There is, after all, a big difference between voicing your displeasure for a strike call on a ball that appeared to be way outside than there is arguing an obstruction call.
From my experience, I would say somewhere between 98 and 99 percent of the fans at youth games do not know the difference between obstruction and interference.
We saw that at a Butte High game this weekend. A Bulldog fan yelled at the same umpire because he gave the delayed signal for obstruction when the runner collided with the Butte High catcher, who did not have the ball.
I’m not sure why the fan yelled, and I’m pretty sure he didn’t know either. He was probably just confused when the ump briefly held out his left hand.
I think it might have been the same fan who yelled at a Butte High infielder to throw home on a two-out grounder in the junior varsity game. That is why the coaches tell the parents not to coach from the stands.
Luckily, the player did not listen to the fan, though similar screams from the crowd seemed to lead to a Butte High player throwing to the wrong base earlier in the JV game.
Too many fans also do not understand the balk rule, but they always want to argue that call when it goes against their team. I’ll admit it, I don’t always know why a balk is called, but I usually assume the umpire who is intently looking for a balk probably does.
Fans are always certain that they are right, and the umpire is wrong — even though they know that only one of them has read the rule book. Even worse, they often act like the umpire is dumb. But it not usually the umpire who looks like a fool when all is said and done.
Everyone has the right to fan how they want to fan, and umpires have the right to throw fans out of the game for getting out of hand — even if it rarely happens.
But it is a good rule of thumb to know the rules before you start yelling about a call. Otherwise, you are going to be the one who looks or sounds bad on the GameChanger video.
Like with the case on Manny’s bobble, the call on Trapper’s great catch was pretty dang obvious to anyone who ever read the rule book or listened to a good color commentator.
Holy buckets be damned.
— Bill Foley, who could tell you the difference between obstruction and interference, can be reached at foles74@gmail.com. Follow him at twitter.com/Foles74 or Bluesky at @foles74.bsky.social. Listen to him on the ButteCast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you find your favorite podcasts.
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Episode No. 343: John Kovacich

John Kovacich is going to double dip this summer as the Butte Sports Hall of Fame inducts its 20th class.
John will finally go in as an individual inductee during the July 24-25 ceremonies at the Butte Civic Center. He was voted into the Hall by the selection committee earlier this year.
John will also go in as a member of the 1972 Mile High All-Star baseball team. That team is still Butte’s only 12-year-old (and under) Little League baseball team to win a state title and advance to the West Regional in San Bernardino, California.
Oh, and John was a member of the 1977 Butte High state championship football team that was inducted into the Butte Sports Hall of Fame in 2005. John was a first-team All-State defensive back and a second-team All-State punter on the team that finished the season with an 11-0 record. The Bulldogs gave up just 20 total points that season, and it was named as Butte High’s best team of the 20th Century by Pat Kearney.
John, who also started two seasons on Butte High’s basketball team, took his talents to the University of Montana. He helped the Grizzlies win the 1982 Big Sky Conference football title.
Today, John is retired and living in Missoula, though that’s not how he puts it. He says he’s from Butte and vacationing in Missoula.
Earlier today, I met with John inside the Vault at the Metals Sports Bar & Grill for a fun conversation. Listen in as John talks about playing for championship teams in Little League, high school and college.
Listen as he talks about many of his coaches and teammates and how he is still connected with so many of those great people. Listen as he talks about joining so many of them in the Butte Sports Hall of Fame.
Today’s episode is presented by Thriftway Super Stops. Download the TLC app and start saving today.
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No. 342: Shirley Chesterfield-Stanton

Shirley Chesterfield-Stanton will be inducted into the Butte Sports Hall of Fame this July.
She is one of the many overdue members of the Class of 2026. While some might not have recognized that name when the class was announced in February, Shirley was well known in Helena.
The retired physical education teacher spent 40 years coaching at Helena Capital. She coached gymnastics and track, and her teams won multiple state titles in both sports. She also served as announcer for Helena Capital football, basketball and volleyball.
Shirley was a star in track, gymnastics and volleyball at Montana State University from 1972 through 1976. She qualified for the National Track & Field Championships in 1975. She was also a part of four state championship softball teams.
That athletic career got its start in the Mining City, after her parents moved to town when she was in the sixth grade. In the days before Title IX, Shirley grew up dreaming of competing in sports. There were not a lot of opportunities for girls, however.
She played volleyball at Emerson Elementary before competing in track, gymnastics and cross country at Butte High. Then, the girls had to wear smaller letters on their letter jackets, as not to offend the boys.
Today, girls have all kinds of opportunities in sports. That is largely because of the determination and perseverance of people like Shirley, who dedicated her life to athletics.
Shirley was inducted into the Montana Coaches Association Hall of fame in 2002, the Helena Sports Hall of Fame in 2009, and the National High School Athletic Coaches Association Hall of Fame in 2018. The Montana Coaches Association awarded her the National Distinguished Service award in 2024.
This July, she will finally take her rightful place in the Butte Sports Hall of Fame.
Today’s episode is presented by the Kvichak Fish Co. Think of it as salmon and halibut gone Girl Scout cookie. Place your order today.
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These 17 keep Mariah’s message alive

When you tell somebody that you quit drinking, you will get immediate compliments and congratulations.
People you hardly know will be taken aback, and they will be proud of you. I know this because I quit drinking alcohol 18 and a half years ago.
My last drink came early in the morning of Oct. 28, 2007. It was two weeks before the birth of our second child.
I was also on a collision course with a divorce because I did not have an off switch when I drank alcohol. One was too many and 24 was not enough. I needed to quit, but I did not know that I needed to quit.
Until Oct. 28, that is.
That, however, is not a date I celebrate because there is nothing good about that date in my eyes. Sunday, Oct. 28, 2007 was when my good friend Leo McCarthy lost his daughter.
I spent that Saturday working for The Montana Standard. I covered Montana Tech’s Senior Day football game against Montana Western.
After writing the story of Tech’s 28-21 win over the Bulldogs, I helped put the sports pages together before sneaking out the front door of the paper to unwind at Maloney’s Bar just before midnight. Co-workers heard the call over the police scanner not long after I left.
The call was for three 14-year-old Butte girls who were hit by an underage drunk driver as they walked on a trail along Blacktail Lane. Mariah McCarthy was flown to Missoula, where she was pronounced dead.
Her friends, Valerie Kilmer and Kaitlyn Okrusch, suffered injuries that kept them in the local hospital for several days. Their physical wounds eventually healed, but the emotional scars will likely be there forever.
Before that night, I was perfectly content living a dangerous and destructive lifestyle. I was fine with our culture that accepted drunk driving and underage drinking as something we all just do sometimes.
When someone we knew got arrested for driving drunk, we would blame the police officer. Our first question would inevitably be, “Who was the cop?” We would turn into defense attorneys, feeling sorry for ourselves and our friends as we put our lives — and the lives of strangers — in jeopardy because it was too tough to take a cab ride home.
That one October night, tough, changed everything.
The news that my friend lost his daughter, who was 10 years older than my oldest daughter, hit me hard. The sad days in the aftermath of the tragedy completely took away my desire to drink.
Instead of picturing myself in the shoes of the driver of the crash, like we too often do, I could only see myself in Leo’s shoes. I kept hugging and kissing my daughter to the point that I was bugging her that Sunday and the rest of the following week.
Several days after the tragedy, I made a promise to my little girl that I would never drink again, and I have lived up to that promise for nearly two decades.
That promise was made because the death of Mariah made me take a long, hard look in the mirror. I decided that if my children were going to grow up to drink and drive, they would not learn it from me.
Following the lead of Leo, I decided I was going to do my part to break the destructive cycle.
Along with his wife, Janice, and daughter, Jenna, Leo started Mariah’s Challenge. At Mariah’s funeral, Leo promised Mariah’s friends that if they did their part to break the cycle, he would have scholarship money for them to go to college.
He thought he was talking to just a few friends, but it turns out an entire community was listening. In April of 2009, the first Mariah’s Challenge Scholarships were awarded to 31 high school seniors.
Since then, Mariah’s Challenge has doled out a half a million dollars, $1,000 at a time. This May 21, we will see 17 more “Mariah’s Messengers,” as Leo calls them, awarded a scholarship at a ceremony at Montana Tech.
Those recipients are Xaiden Daly, Ava Field, Ally Godbout, Preston Jensen, Kylah Johnson, McKenna LeCoure, Peyton Liva, Jaydyn Mason, Caden Phillips, Reece Zahler and Ziggy Okrusch of Butte High; Molly Peck, Will McGree, Ryan Peoples and Caden Tippett of Butte Central; Brayden Villasenor of Anaconda; and Butte native Marcus Schutey of East Helena.
They will be honored for living by the ideals of Mariah’s Challenge, which means refraining for drinking under age and never getting into a vehicle driven by someone who is impaired.
That is no easy task.
My sobriety, which followed a decade and a half of partying hard, actually came easy for me. That is because I had so much positive reinforcement.
Sure, it took several weeks to convince my friends and coworkers that I was really giving up the booze. Eventually, though, they knew that I meant it, and they were proud of me.
My wife was proud of me, and so was my little girl. As our next two children started to grow up, they, too, were impressed that they never saw me with a drink in my hand. They never saw me drunk, and I think they all know that I made the change for them.
My parents were proud of me, and so were my grandparents before they passed. People I don’t even know were proud of me.
To this day, if I bring up, even strangers will tell me how proud they are.
Literally every day of my life, I find some sort of positive reinforcement to stay away from alcohol. There is plenty of negative reinforcement, too, because I still remember how destructive of a lifestyle I was living.
But it is the positive support that makes the difference.
What these 17 Mariah’s Messengers have accomplished, however, has come despite experience the exact opposite. They live every day under constant peer pressure to drink. They often must sacrifice friendships because they are standing by their convictions.
I saw that firsthand when my oldest daughter went to her last prom four years ago. After pictures and dinner with friends, she came home for an hour or so to wait for the dance to start.
She did that because all her friends were going to a hotel room to drink. The room was booked by some parents of her friends, and I think they might have provided the booze, too.
Delaney stayed away from that because of the pact we made in the days after Mariah’s death. It was a decision that could not have been easy. It was a decision that cost her friends.
That is the kind of decision the 17 scholarship winners from 2026 must make all the time. While I believe that the younger generations are light years ahead of mine when it comes to avoiding drinking and driving, alcohol still plays a very dominant role in our culture.
These young men and women were not around to when the tragedy that took Mariah shook our community, so their commitment is probably much more difficult to live up to than the first classes of scholarship winners.
Making things worse is that we offer very little for our teenagers to do a night. We lost our indoor movie theater, and we have no mall or teen center for them to gather.
Butte has turned into the town from the great Hal Ketchum song “Small Town Saturday Night.” We are basically daring our kids to go to the outskirts of town and drink, and the clock is only ticking on the next inevitable tragedy.
That is why these 17 Mariah’s Messengers — and the 500 or so who preceded them — are so special. That is why their commitment is so important.
If one of these 17 is on your graduation list, double the amount you were planning to put in that graduation card.
More importantly, tell them how amazing they are and how much you admire their dedication, strength and courage. Give them that same positive reinforcement that you would give to a stranger who told you he quit drinking.
Tell them thank you for keeping Mariah’s message going strong 18 and a half years after she left us.
— Bill Foley can be reached at foles74@gmail.com. Follow him at twitter.com/Foles74 or Bluesky at @foles74.bsky.social. Listen to him on the ButteCast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you find your favorite podcasts.



























