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Do not blame these ‘Butte idiots’

Butte tends to be the favorite punching bag for the rest of Montana.
Some of it is deserved, but I would like to think that most of it is not. It is not our fault that you find the landscape of the open-pit mining distasteful. It is not our fault that winter comes on too early and hangs on way too long.
We do not apologize for wearing the fact that we hail from the Mining City on our sleeves like we just served three tours in Fallujah. We also offer no olive branches because we travel better — and louder — with our high school sports teams than other Class AA cities.
Butte people can be a little obnoxious some times, but more often we are the life of the party. We are, after all, the city that produced Evel Knievel and Rob O’Neill. We are also the city that helped the good guys win a pair of world wars, and we take credit for that even if we were not alive to see either effort.
We do not even care that we are often looked down upon as being lesser than Missoula, Bozeman, Helena and Billings. We chalk that up to Butte envy. We figure there are two types of people: those who are from Butte and those who wish they were.
So, do not fear for us because we can take those punches. We are, after all, from Butte. We grew up walking to school uphill both ways, fighting our best friends and vicious packs of wild dogs along the way.
We don’t care what you think about us. Just make sure the punches are not cheap shots, or be ready to be punched back.
Last week, a handful of cheap shots came sneaking in on social media after the Montana Carpenter’s Union endorsed Aaron Flint, a right-wing Republican, for Montana’s first congressional house seat.
That announcement was made at a Butte business, so many people have assumed that it was only the Butte carpenters who made the decision. Some of those who were unhappy with the decision made by the union took out their frustrations on the Mining City.
Now, I will not pass judgement on the local’s endorsement of Flint, even if it does not seem to be a good idea for a union to support a candidate who has spent years trashing organized labor on his radio show.
If the carpenters are fine with an endorsement of a guy who has been part of a radio shot that routinely preaches hate against the LGBTQ+ community, among others, pushed dangerous conspiracy theories and showed tepid support for Vladamir Putin, then that is on them.
But this is not a Butte problem. In fact, the only Butte carpenters I have heard from are livid about the decision to endorse Flint over Sam Forstag, a former smoke jumper and union leader on the Democratic ticket.
A lot of people from the “Gibraltar of Unionism” seem to be angry about the endorsement.
In fact, some of the rumblings underground lately were not caused by the Yellowstone super volcano getting ready to blow. It was generations of Butte union members spinning in their graves.
As pissed off as the Missoula Democrats might have been about the carpenters endorsing Flint, the decision sent way more ripples through the Mining City.
A left-leaning Facebook page called “The Montana Resistance,” though, put Butte in the crosshairs with a post that read “Pro-data center Butte carpenters union endorses Aaron Flint (sic).”
The administrator of the site with 25,000 followers responded to a person who pointed out that Flint has a history of being anti-union with the following: “Exactly! He has called out unions and their destruction for years! Butte idiots.”
That statement is wrong on multiple levels. For one thing, Montana Carpenters Union Local 82 is not a “Butte union.” It is a union that represents carpenters in all corners of the Treasure State.
The union is headquartered in Great Falls, even though some prideful Butte carpenters worked hard to breathe new life into the Butte Carpenters Union Hall on Granite Street.
Newspaper publisher Jesse Mullen jumped to Butte’s defense, pointing out that these Missoula Democrats are doing themselves no favors by calling people from Butte “idiots.” Those same Democrats then sit back and wonder why they just cannot seem to win an election in Montana anymore.
I pointed out that comment about Butte was a cheap shot that was highly inaccurate. Blaming Butte instead of any other city in the state makes no sense. I would guess that there are more union carpenters in Billings and Missoula. So why not blame those cities?
Calling union carpenters “idiots” over the candidate they endorse is so far from fair, too.
Presumably, the No. 1 reason they made the endorsement is because Flint is pro data centers, and those data centers mean jobs for the union workers. At least in the short term.
As a boy who saw his dad travel all around the country to find union electrical work throughout the 1980s, I can certainly sympathize with that.
Everybody should be able to see that side. It doesn’t matter you are 100 percent for data centers, 100 percent against them, or, like me, a skeptic who would like to see the public involved in data center decisions, you should have a soft spot for the working men and women looking for work.
Flint told them he supports building data centers. Forstag, meanwhile, continues to sit on the fence on the subject. Making a decision based on your wallet in these tough economic times does not make a person an idiot.
When you are wondering how you are going to make your next mortgage payment, you are not too worried about the long-term effects that data centers will have on the environment or electrical rates.
Also, some of these carpenters are probably sick of working on the road, away from their families. They see the possibility of jobs in town, and they like that idea.
They might be wrong (and they might be right, too), but to put such a label on them is entirely unfair. It is also counterproductive.
I would feel that way even if Butte did not take some undeserved shots in the process. You cannot call people names and then hope that they will join you in a voting bloc in the next election.
Attack the billionaires willing to trash our land so they can benefit from an artificial intelligence bubble that is bound to burst. Do not attack working men and women looking to get a step ahead.
The author of the post responded to my message about his cheap shot. He admitted that it was wrong, and he told me he was sorry. He did not address the comment publicly, however.
Of course, it is not me he owes an apology to. I am not a carpenter. I barely survived carpentry class at Butte High will all five digits on each hand.
The apology should be delivered to some hard-working union members who are not morons simply because they have a difference stance on data centers. It should be issued to all the people of Butte who do not appreciate being called idiots — even the ones who really are idiots.
It would probably be a good idea to offer that mea culpa before everybody’s favorite punching bag decides to punch back.
— Bill Foley, who has been called an idiot before, can be reached at foles74@gmail.com. Follow him at twitter.com/Foles74 or Bluesky at @foles74.bsky.social. Listen to him on the ButteCast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you find your favorite podcasts.
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Episode No. 376: Cory Johnston

He did not know it at the time, but one overtime loss turned out to be a very good thing for Cory Johnston.
Johnston, a senior at Glasgow High School at the time, fell 1-0 to Danny Trujillo of Arlee in the 112-pound championship match of the Class B-C state wrestling tournament at the Billings Metra.
At the time, Johnston thought that was his last match. He could not, however, end his career like that. So, Johnston decided to wrestle at Dickinson State University, where he became an All-American.
He also earned a degree that helped him become a math teacher and a coach. He coached in Glasgow, following the footsteps of his father, Mark. Then he coached at Ronan.
This school year, Johnston will enter his 12th year as Butte High’s wrestling coach. He also recently added a new title. Johnston is the Bulldogs’ new head golf coach.
After serving as an assistant to Eric Mankins for the past several years, Johnston moved up into the position when Mankins accepted a job as principal of Butte High’s Career Center.
On Friday, I met with Cory at the Butte High coaches’ office for a fun conversation. Listen in as he talks about his deep Mining City roots, even though he grew up in Northeast Montana.
Listen as he talks about how he always knew his career path would take him to Butte. Listen to hear the passion for wrestling that has helped him turn the Butte High wrestling program into a perennial contender for hardware at the state tournament.
Listen in to hear that he still thinks about that one loss.
Today’s episode is presented by Leskovar Honda, home of the non-commission sales team that always has your back.
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Episode No. 375: Kelvin Sampson

There is probably no need for an introduction for today’s guest. You know who Kelvin Sampson is.
Currently, the 70-year-old Sampson is the head coach of the University of Houston’s highly-successful men’s basketball program.
He’s won multiple national Coach of the Year awards, and he took the Cougars to the Final Four in 2021 and 2025. He also took Oklahoma to the Final Four in 2002.
He coached at Indiana, and he was an assistant for the Milwaukee Bucks and Houston Rockets in the NBA.
Before all of that, though, Kelvin Sampson, as Jud Heathcote told him, took Montana Tech’s men’s basketball program from oblivion to obscurity.
Of course, the immediate years following that phone call from the legendary Heathcote were the “Camelot Years” at Montana Tech. Extra seating had to be brought into the HPER Complex to accommodate all the people who wanted to watch Sampson’s high-flying Orediggers win the Frontier Conference title in 1983, 1984 and 1985.
Next Saturday, Aug. 29, Coach Sampson will return to the Mining City to host a camp on Montana Tech’s Kelvin Sampson Court. Click here for more information and to register for that camp.
This morning, I caught up with Coach Sampson over Zoom for a really fun conversation. Listen in as he talks about starting his coaching career and how he and his wife, Karen, had to look on an atlas to find Montana.
Listen in as he talks about so many of the players, assistant coaches and families who helped him in his days in Butte. Listen in to hear that the Mining City still holds a special place in Coach Sampson’s heart.
Today’s episode is presented by Casagranda’s Steakhouse. Eat where the locals eat. (Photo above is from the University of Houston men’s basketball website.)
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No. 374: Remembering Larry Hoffman

Larry Hoffman was not originally from the Mining City. He was born and raised in Lewistown, which is smack dab in the center of Montana.
Nobody, however, was more Butte than Larry, who passed away at the age of 81 on July 31.
Larry was a miner’s miner. His first trip underground came when he was 8 years old, and he immediately knew he was going to make a career out of it.
After graduating from Fergus County High School, Larry came to Butte to earn a degree in mining engineering at the Montana School of Mines.
A birth defect in his lower back meant that he could not pass a physical to work for the Anaconda, Co., but that didn’t stop Larry’s mining career. Instead, he went to work for himself, taking on contract mining jobs in Butte, as well as various other places in North American and South America.
Larry was one the main reasons we still have Christmas lights on the gallows frames in Butte. Each year, Larry and some fellow volunteers climbed up those headframes to bring a little cheer to the holiday season.
He also led the way to put the American flags on top of the headframes. Well, he did until Butte-Silver Bow put a stop to that last December, citing “liability concerns.”
When he wasn’t mining, Larry helped us all learn about it. He volunteered for many years doing things like rebuilding the mining exhibits at the World Museum of Mining and constructing the underground mining tour.
He was instrumental in the construction of the Carousel at Stodden Park, making sure the spirit of the Columbia Gardens will be a live for decades to come.
In short, Larry spent 81 years making the world a better place, and he is already missed so much.
On Dec. 4, 2024, Larry met me at the Belmont Senior Center. We enjoyed a delicious cinnamon roll and had a great conversation about Larry, mining and Butte, America.
This was one of the most popular episodes of the ButteCast, and today I am bringing it back as we remember one of the Mining City’s greatest.
If you listened in 2024, it will be great to hear Larry’s voice again. If you are listening for the first time, get ready to learn a thing or two about our great mining camp. You will probably get a better appreciation of the beauty of the Butte skyline, too.
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Skeez Sullivan taught me how to juggle … and so much more

When you have a teacher who leaves a positive, lasting impact on your life, you should tell that teacher if you can.
Luckily, I was able to tell that to Mr. John “Skeez” Sullivan. He read the column below that I wrote about him a few decades after I first met him as my no-nonsense physical education teacher at Kennedy Elementary School. He didn’t say much about it, but I think he got a kick out of it.
He also said that listening to me try to read the news on the radio made him want to stab his ears out.
Like when I wasted so much time with all those dribbles before I missed all 10 free throws trying to qualify for the Elks Hoop Shoot, Mr. Sullivan was not about to sugarcoat any lesson. I needed to get better, and he let me know.
I had Mr. Sullivan’s class every Monday from the fall of 1983 through the spring of 1987, and he was not the kind of teacher who just sat back and watched us play dodgeball. We wanted to just play, but he was always there to offer a real lesson.
He taught me how to juggle, and he taught me how to keep my eye on the ball. He taught me that it was best to breath in through the nose and out the mouth when exercising. He also embarrassingly taught that, no matter how badly I wanted to win, it is never OK to cheat in dodgeball. Or any sport.
In Mr. Sullivan’s class, I learned the substance was way more important than style.
Later, when I would see Mr. Sullivan at a track meet, he would offer invaluable pearls of wisdom in passing conversation. Hardly a day goes by that I do not think of something that I was taught by Mr. Sullivan, either as an adult or as an elementary student.
Every time, it makes me smile. I even smile when I think about the time he sent me to the corner with a barrage of tennis balls being thrown my way, but somehow none of them hitting me.
Mr. Sullivan passed away on Aug. 7. He was 85.
In his honor, I juggled baseballs just to make sure I still could, and then I dug up this column from the archives. This was first published on Nov. 4, 2014.
Life lessons in Skeez Sullivan’s gym class
Sometimes one little comment can bring back a memory you didn’t even know you had.
That happened to me the other day when I was trying to talk my oldest daughter into playing fifth-grade basketball later this school year.
“I did the hoop shoot thing at school yesterday,” she said, “and I didn’t make one shot.”
Immediately I was brought back to the old Kennedy Elementary gym on a day I had completely forgotten about. It was Mr. Sullivan’s physical education class in third or fourth grade, and he was conducting the qualifying for the Elks Hoop Shoot.
I took the line confident that if I wasn’t going to make a lot of shots, at least I could look like I knew what I was doing as I shot them.
On the first attempt I toed the line. Dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble. Then I tossed the ball in front of me with backspin so it would bounce back to me. Then, dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble and shoot. It missed.
I repeated that routine on all 10 of my shots, and I missed all 10 of them.
As the ball hit the floor on my last shot, I noticed the teacher, John “Skeez” Sullivan, motioning me over to him.
“C’mere,” Mr. Sullivan said as he waived his arm. “How many shots did you just make?”
Having watched all of my shots, Mr. Sullivan knew the answer to the question. I answered anyway.
“I didn’t make any, Mr. Sullivan,” I said.
“Now,” Mr. Sullivan said, “you didn’t make a single shot, but you wasted everybody’s time by bouncing the ball around like that? Why would you do that?”
I had no answer to the teacher, but I got the message loud and clear.
Once I got to know Mr. Sullivan as “Skeez,” he became one of my favorite people. Back when I was missing free throws, though, he was my second favorite gym teacher. Out of two.
Mr. Sullivan was distant second to Mr. Donaldson for two reasons. One, which wasn’t Mr. Sullivan’s fault, was that Mr. Donaldson was our Friday teacher and Mr. Sullivan was our Monday teacher.
School was always way more fun on Friday. Even if there wasn’t a cloud in the sky, Mondays were always dark and miserable to me in grade school.
The second reason was Mr. Donaldson always just let us have fun. It was mostly prison ball on Fridays. Mr. Sullivan was stricter, and he made us learn things. He also made us do more calisthenics.
I never once got in trouble in Mr. Donaldson’s gym. Mr. Sullivan’s gym was another story.
The worst trouble I got into came one gloomy Monday when Mr. Sullivan was splitting up the class into two-person teams for a competition of some kind involving tennis balls.
I don’t know exactly what the game was. I didn’t get to watch because Mr. Sullivan made me stand with my face in the corner throughout the entire game.
That’s because the selection of quality teammates was drying up as Mr. Sullivan randomly put the students on teams. I was one of the last four students picked, and another was a small, very uncoordinated girl. There was no way I would be competitive with that girl as my teammate.
(It should be noted, by the way, that the girl I refer to as “uncoordinated” tied with me in that hoop shoot qualifier.)
When Mr. Sullivan paired the girl with another boy, I mutter “phew” under my breath. At least it was meant to be under my breath.
Mr. Sullivan heard it, and he was not happy. He yelled for me to go stand in the corner, and he repeatedly threw tennis balls at me as I made my slow, embarrassing walk of shame.
The only thing that was missing was a dunce cap.
Later, Mr. Sullivan called me over again and lectured me about how I hurt the feelings of that girl. I don’t remember what he said word for word, but I know it included a “Why would you do that?”
Just like with dribbling before the free throws, I think the answer was that I apparently thought I was a whole lot better than I actually was.
While I didn’t realize it at the time, having Mr. Sullivan as my gym teacher every Monday turned out to be a very good thing.
Because of Mr. Sullivan’s teaching, I can now entertain my kids by juggling. On a good day I can do it for about 30 seconds, and that is more than enough time to entertain a 4-year-old.
I’d also like to think that I learned to be more considerate of the feelings of other, though that is certainly up for debate.
Something that is not debatable, though, is that Mr. Sullivan convinced me at a young age that substance is way more important than style.
The next year when it came time for the Elks Hoop Shoot qualifying during gym class, I didn’t dribble nearly as much. I wasted little time in making 8 of 10 free throws, and I qualified for the city shoot.
I had absolutely forgotten that I competed in the city shoot at Montana Tech that year. That memory probably would have never resurfaced if my daughter had not told me that she went 0 for 10 in that same gym last week.
While I think I’m losing the battle to convince the girl to play basketball, the memory of Skeez Sullivan’s gym class has given me hope in another area.
If nothing else, I know she still has a chance in next year’s Elks Hoop Shoot.
— Bill Foley, who is so thankful to have a teacher like Mr. Sullivan, can be reached at foles74@gmail.com. Follow him at twitter.com/Foles74 or Bluesky at @foles74.bsky.social. Listen to him on the ButteCast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you find your favorite podcasts.

















