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Podcast No. 58: Dan Sullivan

You can call him Dusty Dan or Deepcourt Dan. Either way, you are talking about a Butte legend in Dan Sullivan.
A 1958 Butte Central graduate, Sullivan starred for the Maroons before moving to Missoula play hoops and baseball for the Grizzlies. There, Sullivan roomed with Butte High legend Bob O’Billovich.
After college and a stint in the Army, Sullivan ended up teaching for decades at Butte High School, where his law class filled up like a Springsteen concert.
Listen in as Sullivan talks about playing against and then with O’Billovich. Listen to how he described his old friend’s work ethic as he introduced him into the Montana Football Hall of Fame.

Listen as he talks about his teaching days and about the time he beat the legendary Bill Peoples in a handball match. He was the only player to knock off Peoples in a span of 10 years.
Closing in on his 83rd birthday, Sullivan met me inside the vault at the Metals Sports Bar and Grill for this fun conversation.
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Those travel parents weren’t as smart as they thought

The three Helena parents thought they were on to me.
I got up at 7 a.m. on Super Bowl Sunday to start refereeing basketball games at 8. I didn’t know which teams would be playing. I didn’t even know the grade or gender of the players until I got there.
Despite torn labrums in each hip, a sore foot and an aching back, I went to the George Foley Memorial Gymnasium at West Elementary to referee six games in a travel tournament.
The reason, these parents figured, was so I could cheat against the team from Helena and cheat for the team from Anaconda.
That is what they went way out of their way to tell me, at least.
The stands at the West gym, which is named after my grandpa’s brother, are up above the court. So, the parents had to go way out of their way to confront me about the game.
It started with a dad, who shook my hand and thanked me for being there to referee. Then, he proceeded to lecture me about how I have to be fair.
I wasn’t fair, he said, because my partner and I called more fouls on his daughter’s team than we did on the team from Anaconda.
Anaconda was playing a soft zone defense, while the Helena team employed an aggressive full-court man-to-man press the entire game. I tried to explain to the dad that such different approaches usually lead to different foul counts, but it was like talking to the wall.
Fouls are not created equal. Some teams foul more than others. One team scores more points, too.
Before I could finish explaining that, a mom jumped in to tell me that I was a cheater.
“We filed a complaint yesterday about the same thing,” she said. “We will be filing a complaint again today.”
For the record, I was not the referee who they felt cheated them the day before. I was busy refereeing the subvarsity girls’ basketball games between Butte Central and Hamilton at the Butte Civic Center.
So, I had company as an accused dishonest sports official.
Realizing there was just no talking to such people, I walked up to use the men’s room in the short amount of time I had between games. When I tried to leave the court, the third parent or grandparent jumped in.
This little woman could have been anywhere between 40 and 108. I did not look at her because she immediately made it known that she was not someone I wanted to make eye contact with.
“These parents pay good money for these teams to play, and they deserve fair referees,” she said.
She hurried up to walk beside me and repeated this sentiment all the way up the stairs and down the hallway to where I finally turned to go to the restroom.
“You need to be fair,” she said over and over. “You need to do better.”
Never did I feel threatened by these three. I was just annoyed by their accusations and their monetary sense of entitlement.
A couple weeks earlier at the same gym, though, is a different story. My safety and the safety of my partner Kristen were definitely in question.
We were working the all-important sixth-grade boys’ consolation championship game on a tournament on a Sunday afternoon. It was so important that I did not even know the name of the tournament — if there even was one.
Judging by the parents in the crowd, this was game was a matter of life and death.
Fans screamed at us to call a travel, and then they screamed at us if we called a travel. They screamed at us to call a foul. Then they screamed at us for calling fouls.
They wanted us to call 3 seconds. Then they screamed at us for calling 3 seconds.
“That’s terrible!”
“Call ’em both ways!”
“There’s two teams out there!”
The coaches from both teams did not like us much either.
In the first minutes of the game, we had one boy push another boy after a hand-check foul. Then the boy who was pushed put a finger in the other boy’s face and said, ‘Ha ha, you’re benched.’”
Then, the coaches were mad at the officials for calling technical fouls on the boys.
“You have to explain to them what they did,” one coach told me, as if they did not know.
Neither player came off the court because of the technicals, and the calls only enraged the parents.
Since we didn’t have the security we do at high school games, Kristen asked me, sincerely, if we were going to be able to get out of the gym during a late timeout.
“Just stay by me,” I said. “We’ll fight our way out of here if we have to.”
Of course, this happened right after we saw on the news that a 60-year-old man died following a fight between spectators at a middle school basketball game in Vermont.
We have seen countless videos of officials getting assaulted, too.
I started refereeing basketball games this season. I passed the test to become a member of the Montana Officials Association, and I have been refereeing subvarsity high school games.
It has been a lot of fun working the high school games. Almost all of the students and coaches are respectful, and I never even came close to calling a single technical foul in a prep game.
Sure, we hear fans yell from the stands, and some coaches work for calls the entire game. That never bothers me.
Not once did I feel like I was about to be attacked or confronted.
That’s because each high school event has school administrators on hand to make sure that things don’t get out of hand. After a game, the officials leave the court immediately.
At travel tournaments, we officiate the game, then wait around to officiate the next one. We are sitting ducks for the angry moms and dads.
The plus side to that, though, is so many times we have players come up to thank us for refereeing. By far the majority of the kids are fun. They make it all worth it, even if some of their parents yell at us.
These tournaments are a great place for officials, especially inexperienced officials, to work on their game.
Of course, the No. 1 reason they are there is so that there can be a game in the first place. Their job is to make sure one team does not have an unfair advantage over another. They are not there to make sure the foul count — or the score — is equal.
They are not there to make sure that the parents feel they got their money’s worth.
They see a foul or violation, they call it. It really is that simple.
Sometimes they miss them. Sometimes the players miss shots, too.
When young and inexperienced officials are repeatedly badgered by fans, they quit. Then, the same fans complain that we don’t have enough good officials working games when their children reach high school.
In a recent edition of the ButteCast, Mike Thatcher offered his 90/10 theory. He said 90 percent of the people are good, but that 10 percent really make things difficult on the 90.
Being the glass-is-half-full type, I think it is closer to 95/5. When it comes to the players, it is more like 99.9-0.1.
If you ever confronted an official following a youth basketball game, you are part of the smaller number.
If so, you should listen to what the woman between 40 and 108 says and do better.
— Bill Foley, who never dreamed he’d be accused of cheating for Anaconda, can be reached at foles74@gmail.com. Follow him at twitter.com/Foles74. Listen to the ButteCast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify.
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Podcast No. 57: Mason Christian

Mason Christian is kind of a big deal.
The Butte High senior won the Class AA heavyweight title last week at the All-Class State Wrestling Tournament at the Billings Metra. The victory came a year after he won the 182-pound crown for the Bulldogs.
Christian and his family moved to the Mining City from Missouri the summer before his freshman season. He joined the Bulldog wrestling team that year, and he struggled to find success.
By his sophomore season, Christian started to rack up the wins. Over his last two seasons, he left a legacy that will be remembered for decades to come.
Listen in as Christian talks about his first impressions of Butte. Listen as he talks about the pride of being a Bulldog, his wrestling partners and teammates and his plans to wrestle and study at West Liberty College in West Liberty, West Virginia.
Listen to hear what Mason is going to miss about Butte High and what it feels like to be a two-time state champion.
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Podcast No. 56: Richie O’Brien

Richie O’Brien always seems to be in a good mood.
Even when he lost his father and was diagnosed with bone cancer in high school, Richie was always putting a positive spin on things.
He was an outstanding football player for Butte Central. He has also been a coach for the Maroons in track and football. This spring, Richie will serve as Butte Central’s first head coach in baseball.
In May of 2017, Richie helped bring the murders of Broadwater County Deputy Mason Moore to justice. He took part in a high-speed chase and shootout on Interstate 90. It was a scene straight out of Hollywood, but it was real.
Richie risked his life for justice and safety. That chase was highlighted as part of a recent episode of NBC’s Dateline.
Listen in as Richie talks about that chase and its aftermath. Listen as he discusses his family, losing his father, beating cancer and the support he received from the community.
No longer a police officer, Richie O’Brien is still a true-life hero. We all owe him a debt of gratitude.
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Montana Tech men’s coach has reason to be smiling

A year ago, Adam Hiatt could not help but smile when he talked about next season.
I figured the Montana Tech men’s basketball coach must have known what he was talking about, but I didn’t really believe him.
No way could the 2022-23 Montana Tech men’s basketball team be anywhere near as good as the 2021-22 Frontier Conference champion Orediggers. There was just no way.
I did not care how much Hiatt, the head coach of the Orediggers, thought he knew. There was going to be a serious drop off.
That 2021-22 team won a game at the NAIA National Tournament, and it had some “Super Seniors” who could not be replaced. We are talking about guys like Taylor England, Derrius Collins, Drew Huse and, of course, the great Sindou Diallo.
They led Tech to a 27-7 season, highlighted by Huse’s game-winning 3-pointer over Carroll College in the Frontier Conference championship game in Helena.
Last season was a season for the ages. With those guys walking out the door, the program had to take a serious hit. Right?
Well, wrong.
The latest edition of the Orediggers is as good as ever. It is also as exciting as ever.
I thought it would be decades before we would ever see a team that could match the excitement level of one led by Diallo, who is now playing professional ball in the Qatari Basketball League.
He was the most fun player to watch at Montana Tech since the legendary “Flyin’” Brian Vaughns took flight at the HPER Complex three decades earlier.
Again, wrong.
After Saturday’s 97-70 win over the University of Providence in Great Falls, the No. 11 Orediggers are 23-4 on the season. At 11-3 in conference, Tech has wrapped up sole possession of the Frontier Conference regular-season championship.
Last year, Tech shared the regular-season crown with Carroll College, giving the Orediggers their first banner of the 21st Century.
Then, of course, Huse hit that trey in the madhouse that was the P.E. Center to give Tech the tournament title, too.
Junior Caleb Bellach, whose parents were both stars for the Orediggers in the 1990s, is the leader of the Orediggers. He can score inside and outside. He can also play some defense.
Junior College transfer Asa Williams, a junior, and sophomores Michael Ure, a former Idaho Gatorade Player of the Year, and Keeley Bake average in double figures.
The player I just can’t take my eyes off, though, is redshirt freshman Hayden Diekhans. The Geraldine product and nephew of former Montana Western player and coach Kevin Engellant, is a force on both ends of the court.
He is one of the top defenders in the conference already, and he is not afraid to throw down a dunk in traffic.
Seriously, we need to have a dunk meter installed at the HPER Complex. With this latest edition of the Orediggers, it is just so hard to keep count.
They dunk so much that they remind me of the days of the Ferch brothers at Montana State.
Tech has put 50 wins over the last two seasons, and the Orediggers are nearly unbeatable on their home court.
Last Thursday’s 87-78 overtime win over Carroll College extended Tech’s home winning streak to 27 games.
Tech fell 62-59 to the College of Idaho at home on Nov. 12, 2021. The Diggers rolled Oklahoma City University 88-69 the next night to start the streak that included running the table at home in conference games two straight seasons.
The crowd for last week’s Carroll game was nuts. The gym was mostly full, and it was loud. And fun.
Unfortunately, it seems like not enough people know about the Orediggers. Finding a seat for home games is usually never a problem — even if you show up late.
The crowds are nice, but not as big as they should be.
I remember seeing Vaughns play, and we had to sit on the floor. That is how games should be now. The HPER Complex is not big enough for the crowds Tech should be getting for such exciting play.
The Butte Civic Center is not big enough for the crowds these Diggers should be drawing. The $7 price tag for general admission is the best bargain in town.
The Orediggers close out the regular season Saturday against MSU-Northern in Havre. Then, Tech will play in the Frontier Conference Tournament in Great Falls.
For the first time this century, the Orediggers would have locked up home-court advantage for the tournament. It just so happens to be the first time in many years that the tournament will be held at the same site.
I will spare you my conspiracy theories that are on par with my longtime skepticism about Carroll College winning every tiebreaker in football when the great Mike Van Diest was the coach.
Still, the Orediggers will likely host the first two rounds of the NAIA National Tournament as long as they at least qualify for the Frontier Tournament championship game.
Last year, remember, the Frontier champions had to go to Waxahachie, Texas, while the runner-up Saints hosted the first two rounds.
That will never sit right, but let’s get back to this year.
If the Orediggers do, indeed, get to play a tournament game on their home court, we just might see the biggest HPER Crowd since Kelvin Sampson’s last postseason game in 1985.
At least we should.
Then, if the Orediggers can run that home streak to 29, they would be playing in Kansas City in the round of 16.
Of course, we are getting ahead of ourselves a little bit.
For now, it is just fun to watch a program that is turning out winning season after winning season. For so many years following the days of coach Rick Dessing, we saw Oredigger teams play hard and play smart. But they lost.
Now, the Orediggers are officially perennial contenders, and they seem primed to make some serious noise this postseason.
Here is the best part about the Tech program, though. The Oredigger men did not celebrate Senior Night when they hosted the Saints in their final home game of the regular season.
That is because the Frontier Conference champions do not have a single senior on the roster.
Tech’s team is made up of nine juniors, four sophomores and four freshmen.
After the win over Carroll, I congratulated Hiatt on another title, and I reminded him of the struggle of his first season, the 2016-17 campaign. We laughed that he called it “Year Zero” as he started to build a program from the very bottom up.
That program is now officially built, and these are good days to be an Oredigger fan.
Even as his team is heading to the postseason on a high, Hiatt could not help but smile when he talked about next year.
This time, I definitely believe him.
— Bill Foley, whose wild conspiracy theories all revolve around Carroll College, the Green Bay Packers, the Los Angeles Lakers and the New York Yankees, can be reached at foles74@gmail.com. Follow him at twitter.com/Foles74. Listen to the ButteCast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify.
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Podcast No. 55: Scott Ferguson

In 1986, Scott Ferguson was named the Montana Gatorade Basketball Player of the Year for boys’ basketball. He was also named a Converse All-American.
A banner hangs on the wall at Butte High’s Richardson Gym to commemorate the Gatorade Award, but it seems like Fergie’s career has been underappreciated for so long.
As a senior during the 1985-86 season, Fergie averaged 17.8 points, 9.8 rebounds and 6.5 assists per game. He stood 6-foot-4 and played all five positions for Butte High. He was mainly the point guard.
Fergie got in some games as a sophomore, so he is in the Butte Sports Hall of Fame as a member of Butte High’s 1984 state championship team. Someday, he should be inducted as an individual, too.
Listen in as Fergie talks about playing for the Bulldogs, Eastern Montana College (now MSU-Billings) and Montana Western. Listen to him talk about playing for coach Pat Foley, and listen in as he talks about a crazy Las Vegas winning streak.
Listen to how he agreed (kind of) to become a basketball official next season.












